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: Do you strugggle with Forgiveness?

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Forgiveness is different to returning to the original situation willingly with no guarantee of change. Forgiveness is a matter of the heart & is not necessarily proven by external actions. We have a duty to ourselves - to protect & respect ourselves - & continually 'forgiving' those who abuse us in these ways is contrary to this duty. Forgiveness occurs when we are more attached to Christ than other things. But Christ has never expected us to throw ourselves in the lion's den repeatedly. For that is not Love.
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I do struggle with forgivness.

I think that as long as I am hurt over something that I can't truly forgive. The two are connected. I can desire as much as I like to forgive but something deep down inside is still screaming in anger and pain and is an obstacle. I think that the first step in forgiving is praying for healing.

Maybe it will get easier with time.
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=Robertanthony;10672498]I think you're spot on. It's been said many times, to the extent that it's become cliché, but "not forgiving someone is like drinking a poison and expecting the other person to die".
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well it is interesting to see the western version of opinions --

but looking at the bible comenatry in liv 5



"If one commit a trespass ... in the holy things of Jehovah ..." The careless neglect of paying tithes, or the inadvertent offering of an unsuitable animal for sacrifice, and other types of sins would fall under this category. The penalty was next to the largest imposed by the sacrifices, a ram of the flock being a property of considerable value.

Furthermore, the appraisal of the ram was not left to the offerer but was to be made by the priests; and the mention of "shekels" in the plural indicated that it had to be of more than ordinary value. Two conditions were imposed in connection with this type of sacrifice, these being: (1) that a confession of sin was required, and (2) that restitution including a twenty percent penalty was demanded.

Regarding the name of the sacrifice here called trespass-offering, it is called guilt-offering in some versions; and Wenham cited examples of its being called "reparation-offering" and "compensation-offering."[12] Although certain cases must have been very difficult to decide, as to whether a sin-offering or a trespass-offering was demanded, the vital distinction between the two sacrifices was primarily discernible in what each typified.


A second specific situation in which a sin-offering was required (Leviticus 5:2,3) was that of a person who unwittingly, or without his knowledge, became polluted by touching either an unclean object or an unclean person.

Some have expressed wonder as to how such violations could have occurred, but it was quite common.


For example, if one stepped upon a grave unintentionally, he was unclean by virtue of that action. In those times, when graves were not to be found exclusively in cemeteries, there were many who violated without any intention of it.


From this arose the custom of white-washing graves, as was done extensively in the days of Jesus Christ, a custom to which he referred when he called the Pharisees,

"whited sepulchres!" (Matthew 23:27-29).


Also, in the case of unclean animals, the touch could have come about through the movement or action of the animal, not by the one touched, being therefore an unintentional violation.

any way why struggle with unforgiveness-- ??

it is easy to find people christian or catholics -- who have perverted opinions, LOL

and with out the Holy Spirit -- they keep them--
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