Re: When Jesus said "I thirst" While on the Cross

Apr 23, '13, 10:37 am

PJM Senior Member   Join Date: August 31, 2008 Posts: 8,851 Religion: Informed, practicing RomanCatholic

Re: When Jesus said "I thirst" While on the Cross Quote: =DannyGR;10640769]I have heard that when Jesus said "I thirst" while on the cross he did not just mean physical thirst, but that he thirsts for souls. Anyone else hear of this? It does make sense, IMO. Thanks ahead of time . Congradulations Danny Your hearing IS FINELY tuned That is correct. There would have been no need [it was obvious fact], for Jesus to be referencing "physical thirst" for three reasons: That was part of the inflicted pain The ones he would have asked for help; just NAILED Him to the Cross to SUFFER! He WAS offered a druged drink and REFUSED it. The Message is: EVEN WITH ALL THAT I HAVE DONE; I WISH I COULD STILL DO MORE FOR YOU! __________________ PJM http://working4christ2.wordpress.com Can we partake of God's GLORY and NOT partake of His PASSION? NO! A.B. Fulton Sheen: "The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it, and a lie is still a lie, even if everybody believes it."

#17   Yesterday, 5:44 am

Aussieman88 Junior Member   Join Date: January 4, 2012 Posts: 201 Religion: Catholic

Re: When Jesus said "I thirst" While on the Cross One thing I've often wondered. we were taught that forsaken me also can be translated as abandoned me. Is it possible that when Jesus became sin for us that God had to turn His face away from Him, removing Himself and the Holy spirit from Jesus so that He was no longer in Him as He is in Him also. you know what I mean. The result being that the 'rivers of life giving water' that flowed within Jesus was no longer there. He thirsted for God and the Holy spirit. ? I know Jesus and God are one like wet and water, you can't get in water without getting wet.

#18   Yesterday, 6:01 am

josh987654321 New Member   Join Date: March 14, 2013 Posts: 271 Religion: Catholic

Re: When Jesus said "I thirst" While on the Cross Quote: Originally Posted by Aussieman88 One thing I've often wondered. we were taught that forsaken me also can be translated as abandoned me. Is it possible that when Jesus became sin for us that God had to turn His face away from Him, removing Himself and the Holy spirit from Jesus so that He was no longer in Him as He is in Him also. you know what I mean. The result being that the 'rivers of life giving water' that flowed within Jesus was no longer there. He thirsted for God and the Holy spirit. ? I know Jesus and God are one like wet and water, you can't get in water without getting wet. Katya addresses this in her short book "from sini to calvery" free to read online here - http://www.loveandmercy.org/Eng-FSC-Reg.pdf Christ dictates to her about the stations of the cross, including "My God, My God, Why have you forsaken me." I strongly recommend reading it, my words cannot describe. In short he was addressing all of those who would turn out to suffer a similar fate and feel the same way of "My God My God, Why have you forsaken me." for all of those who have heavy crosses imposed on them for doing right/wrong, for all of the injustices our brothers commit against one another. This is a very short extract from the link above - These are the words of Jesus Christ in Bold Quote: 22) “I felt in each centimeter of My Body the pain of each child murdered inside the body of his own mother. And their innocence joined with My shout of human powerlessness: ‘My God, My God… why have You forsaken me? Why do You permit this woman, who could cradle me in her arms, warming my small body, to condemn me to not see the light of day and to condemn herself to not see the Light of Heaven?’ Thank you for reading Josh __________________ Katya Rivas' Stigmata on Film! - http://www.youshallbelieve.com/?page_id=70 Skeptical? - http://www.youshallbelieve.com/A-plea-to-humanity.pdf Messages from Jesus Christ to Katya - http://www.youshallbelieve.com/?page_id=921 Thread CAF - http://forums.catholic.com/showthrea...=776337&page=2 Last edited by josh987654321; Yesterday at 6:20 am.

#19   Yesterday, 7:31 am

PJM Senior Member   Join Date: August 31, 2008 Posts: 8,851 Religion: Informed, practicing RomanCatholic

Re: When Jesus said "I thirst" While on the Cross Quote: =Aussieman88;10674053]One thing I've often wondered. we were taught that forsaken me also can be translated as abandoned me. Is it possible that when Jesus became sin for us that God had to turn His face away from Him, removing Himself and the Holy spirit from Jesus so that He was no longer in Him as He is in Him also. you know what I mean. The result being that the 'rivers of life giving water' that flowed within Jesus was no longer there. He thirsted for God and the Holy spirit. ? I know Jesus and God are one like wet and water, you can't get in water without getting wet. We must KEEEP IN Mind that Jesus ALONE has TWO complete and Perfect NATURES: I really LIKED your "wet and water" he was [and is] ALWAY'S God; But it is Christ the "man" who suffered and died on the Cross for us. When Jesus exclaimed:"My God; My God why have YOU abandoned me" he was speaking in and through His HUMAND nature. ALSO, the "abandon me" is often not clearly understood. GOD NEVER ABANDONS US; WE CAN HOWEVER, ABANDON HIM. What Christ is saying here: Is "was this truly necessary?" FATHER HELP ME! __________________ PJM http://working4christ2.wordpress.com Can we partake of God's GLORY and NOT partake of His PASSION? NO! A.B. Fulton Sheen: "The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it, and a lie is still a lie, even if everybody believes it."

#20   Yesterday, 7:56 am

sennincatholic New Member   Join Date: March 21, 2013 Posts: 121 Religion: Catholic

Re: When Jesus said "I thirst" While on the Cross Quote: Originally Posted by RockstarBuffalo Endure a little thirst? While on the verge of excruciating death from torture? No I don’t think he could endure that without saying he was thirsty. The rosary points out that he was collapsing from the brutal trauma he endured BEFORE he was nailed to the cross and hung in the hot desert sun bleeding to death. Again. This is over kill thinking he wasn’t simply thirsty. Additionally you make the comment that his last words can’t be “I’m thirsty” WHY! This isn’t a movie. This is a man being brutally tortured. Why do so many people buy into the romanticized idea that this is all some scripted story? Stop making it a fairy tale and realize he was the son of God but in a human body. By the way. His last words had to do with asking the Lord why he had forsaken him. Why wouldn’t he also say he was thirsty? Christ always speaks the Truth.So if he said he thirsts..it could mean in a physical or spiritual way or both physical and spiritual ways.Was Christ not true God and True Man?so why do some people want to separate his divine and human natures on the cross as if they were not part of thesame Christ?physical thirst and spiritual thirst for souls are not mutually exclusive!

#21   Yesterday, 8:09 am

sennincatholic New Member   Join Date: March 21, 2013 Posts: 121 Religion: Catholic

Re: When Jesus said "I thirst" While on the Cross Quote: Originally Posted by Aussieman88 One thing I've often wondered. we were taught that forsaken me also can be translated as abandoned me. Is it possible that when Jesus became sin for us that God had to turn His face away from Him, removing Himself and the Holy spirit from Jesus so that He was no longer in Him as He is in Him also. you know what I mean. The result being that the 'rivers of life giving water' that flowed within Jesus was no longer there. He thirsted for God and the Holy spirit. ? I know Jesus and God are one like wet and water, you can't get in water without getting wet. The founder of the Focolare movement Chiara Lubich(my avatar picture) wrote a book entitled: "The cry of Jesus crucified and forsaken"(i hope i got the title right.lol) which talks about the spirituality of Jesus Forsaken on the cross by the Father and its implications. And yes..in her book she confirms what you think about God the Father turning away from Jesus on the cross because He was carrying on Him all of the sins of the world and since God is Holy He could not stand the sight of sin.However..she also says God the Father did forsake Jesus out of Love too.Its a deep spiritually and i'll advice you to read the book or google the Focolare Movement(founded by Chiara Lubich) inorder to get more info.(sorry i cant give you links)

#22   Yesterday, 2:57 pm

trevor1055 New Member Book Club Member   Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 82 Religion: Catholic

Re: When Jesus said "I thirst" While on the Cross Dr. Scott Hahn gives a GREAT talk on this in a CD called, "The 7 Last Sayings of Christ." It might be on YouTube. I got the Lighthouse CD at my Parish.

#23   Yesterday, 4:06 pm

PJM Senior Member   Join Date: August 31, 2008 Posts: 8,851 Religion: Informed, practicing RomanCatholic

Re: When Jesus said "I thirst" While on the Cross Quote: =Sknupbog;10676006]DID YOU JUST READ THE NEW GOSPEL FROM JUDAS?? FIND OUT AT JUDAS GOSPEL This person is MOST LIKELY NOT a Catholic! This book is heritical DON"T waste your time with it __________________ PJM http://working4christ2.wordpress.com Can we partake of God's GLORY and NOT partake of His PASSION? NO!